Dimensions and Densities Cont’d

Published December 23, 2020 by tindertender

Let’s start with 4d:

The fourth dimension is time. From your personal perspective you could say your 4d body would be a long snake-like form. It begins quite small at the tail with a new born baby. Then moment by moment it grows longer and larger as you grow to be a young boy. Then it gets to its full girth as you become a young man. Longer and longer it gets with each day that passes for you. Its cross-section shape is your body at any given moment. So, though it ceases to get much taller after you became a young man it may well get somewhat wider as you progress into your middle years. The longer you live, the longer this snake grows. Maybe you can imagine it a little like a loaf of bread: each moment of your life is one slice and each slice is your whole 3d body. Moment-upon-moment the snake grows longer and longer until it eventually ends with the death of your body. From your perspective you live a linear life from beginning to end forming one long snake-like body.

Q: But why is it long like that? Why does the snake get longer? Why couldn’t it be like Russian dolls with baby-me in the middle and as I get bigger I just form new layers outside that?

A: It is a good question, even though you ask it somewhat in jest. The answer is this: if you did not move at all there would not be progression. This movement which produces the snake-like growth is time. If you stood perfectly, still time would stand still for you.

Q: But that makes no sense! I stand still all the time!

A: You stand still in 3d but you cannot stand still in 4d. And it is as a result of your movement in 4d that you experience time. If you sat dead still for a whole day, by the beginning of the next day you would have moved once around the circumference of your planet.

So how then are you going to stay perfectly still?

And the movements you make in time cause your long, snake-like body to be shaped into many spiral coils and loops which ultimately make a torus shape.

Let me explain.

At the end of the above-mentioned day you do not end where you began because the planet itself has moved on. It travels around the sun once a year. Making your series of spirals into another bigger spiral. But again you do not end where you began because your solar system is very slowly rotating. In fact EVERYTHING in your universe is rotating right up to the very universe itself. And so, no matter how long you live, your body would be growing and aging and transforming, moment by moment, as it hurtled forward at quite some speed through space in an amazing pattern of spirals made up of ever smaller spirals. The movements you actually choose to make when you walk, drive or fly in aeroplanes don’t even show up as perturbations compared to that patterns created by your high-speed flit though space and time.

Q: Amazing. As you were describing this to me I got a picture in my head of the cord used to connect a telephone hand-set to its base. It’s a spiral. I imagined curling that spiral cable into a much bigger spiral and then taking that bigger spiral and winding it up around itself into a BIGGER spiral…

A: …yes, that is the gist of it. And the longer you live the more spirals you can be a part of. Human lives are, in the greater scheme of things, of very short duration. So your motion only incorporates some of the smaller spirals. If you could live a few billion years then your 4d body would begin to show the arc of the rotation of the universe. But no matter how many spirals you form they always tend to create a torus. A torus is a doughnut shape. This is because you travel in a circle around and central space. So your snake-body makes a torus loop. Then it makes more and more loops until it makes a shape like a loose spring. But as the spring-shape gets longer it curls round upon itself until it makes a complete loop and then you see another torus! But the torus doesn’t quite complete because it doesn’t end where it started. And the pattern just keeps repeating making larger and larger near-toroids.

So that is what your body would look like to you if you were a 4d being. And if you were a 4d being then you would think of yourself quite differently from the way you currently do. In much the same way as you might currently look around the room you are sitting in and see a chair over there and a book over here, your 4d self could look around and see being middle-aged over here and being a toddler over there. All of your whole life is “right here” to that being. He does not need to wonder what will happen when you wake up tomorrow morning because that is as clear and present to him as the keyboard under your fingers is to you now. Your whole life, from start to end, is his “here and now”.

What he might wonder about and try to work with is not “tomorrow” or “yesterday”, it is “alternate”. Which is what is dealt with by the 5d being. So a 4d being is a time-like projection of your reality and it consists of spirals forming toruses.


5d is an “expansion” or a “projection” of 4d. Let us use you as an example. There are many things you could have been, could have done, could have experienced but chose not to. You feel you are living the life of all the things you did choose and all the things you didn’t choose don’t exist. Well, on some level they do exist. On some level every single choice that could ever have been offered to you was taken and every single outcome to all those choices was experienced. And that level is the 5th dimension.

In the 3rd dimension you are living one life with one set of choices. At 4d you are the whole of that time-line from birth to death. In the 5th dimension you are a cloud of potentiality in which all the probable and possible choices you could have taken exist simultaneously. Your 5d body is a cloud through which you could plot any number of possible time-lines. The choices that are closest to your Soul’s intent are nearer the centre of the cloud. That is where the most energy is expended. That is where you will find the most Life and the most vitality.

The closer you, the 3d expression, are to this centre core, the more vital and energetic you will be and the more “flow” you will find in your life. You will feel more “right” about what you are doing and things will be easier to do. Move towards the outer limits of the cloud and you will experience hardship and a decrease in personal energy and vitality. As you approach the edge of the cloud where your Soul ceased to express itself so you will cease to be able to function. You won’t be able to go there. If you persist in trying you will experience a termination of the incarnation.

Q: But I don’t understand…

A: Of course you don’t. You are a 3d consciousness and I have just given you a 5d perspective. Much about this will be beyond your comprehension no matter how hard we try. Until you experience it yourself it will elude you. But go ahead… tell me what bothers you.

Q: Well, for starters, if 5d-me has ALL the choices available then what is the point of me living a 3d life? Why not just look at all the choices and choose the best path… and live that?

A: You were correct when you said you didn’t understand. These other alternatives are no less real, no less valid, no less lived and experienced that your life is. They are all equally true and valid. There is no difference between the life you are living and a parallel life with slightly different choices. The only difference is for you. You make particular choices and you experience the outcome of those choices. Your experiences are just that… they are your experiences. The 5th dimension is a wave-form that includes all the possible experiences that might be had in the 3rd dimensions. You, yourself, are an individual observer. The observer collapses the wave-form into a single event. You turn potentiality into actuality. You do this for your own life and then you experience that life as your own. That is what you do. But in so doing you do not diminish infinity. Infinity requires that all things that can exist, do exist. They must all be equally valid. And so it is for 5d-you. All the choices that you can take… you do take. You take them all, live them all, see them all. But YOU my beloved 3d being, do not see all of them. You only see one linear and direct path. You only see one out of every possible choice being actualised.

Q: That’s… simply mind-blowing. I don’t even know how to make sense of that.

A: Let me offer you a thought: When we say you create your own reality do you not sometimes think that you must therefore be creating a reality for others around you also? If you choose a happier world starting right now… then you must surely also choose for everyone else in the world, right? Does it not strike you that, if this were true, that you were taking from them their right to create their world as more un-happy if they wanted?

Q: Uh… yeah. I had wondered about that.

A: Well, wonder no more! Each point of consciousness chooses for itself. You can live in a happier world and you will only experience other beings – or other aspects of beings – who have also chosen for that happier world. The version of you that chooses a less happy tomorrow will be there to experience that with others that are co-creating that with him. And if someone is creating a version of the world that is not at all congruent with your soul-purpose then no version of you will be found in that world. As you approach those conditions then your incarnation will terminate. Or you will not be born into that world in the first place.

Q: Astounding. I am so deeply failing to compute this info that I don’t even know what to say or think.

A: Let’s take a moment out then. Remember our imaginary conversation with Shadowman? Now maybe you understand poor Shadowman’s response to being told about depth and how you are above him and can see inside him, past him to all the other flat people on the wall, through walls and inside boxes. Trying to make sense of dimensional realities greater than you own can be a lot to cope with. I understand.

My advice is not to try too hard to think about it. The only real way you can actually think about these dimensions is with mathematics. But you don’t have the training to do that kind of computation and those that DO have such training can only do the most basic calculations like extending a 2d square to a 3d cube to a 4d tesseract and so forth. It’s a neat bit of calculation but it doesn’t begin to explain life and experiences at the various dimensional levels. It doesn’t take consciousness into consideration. So it ends up being lifeless and dry. It certainly can’t describe what it might be like to live life as a 5d being!

So don’t try to hard to think about 5d, rather try to feel about it. Take a deep breath and move into your heart for a moment. Feel in your heart what it might mean to you to know that you are experiencing one version of what you could be but that all versions are equally real and valid. All versions are alive. All versions are equally “you”.

How does that feel?

Q: Hmm. I actually feel quite good about that. The confusion that is in my head isn’t in my heart. The first thing that comes up for me is the realisation that all judgements I might have about myself are therefore pointless. If I am anyway all of the possible versions of me then I have already taken all the best decisions AND all the worst decisions. And if I have already taken all those decisions and all of them are equally real then the value judgements of “best” and “worst” become a bit meaningless, don’t they? Instead I can simply accept that each decision yields an outcome.

Then the only decision I have to make is if I like that outcome or not. If I like it then I can take more choices just like that and if I don’t then I make different choices. But what I realize now is the value of the choices I would previously have called “bad”. Now they are perfectly valid choices that have given me the gift of seeing exactly how and why I don’t like them. The fact that I have made those choices allows me to take other decisions. I now take an informed, conscious decision.

So its actually incredibly liberating. If, at 5d, I am already all of it then I choose to gift to my 3d-self the opportunity to be the happiest, most magnificent version of myself that I can be. I choose more love, more joy and more truth and wisdom. And I can be grateful to all the versions of me that are choosing anything else because of the opportunity they gift to me.


At 6d you have made all the choices you, at a soul-level, ever possibly could have made. Here we are talking about all the different kinds of lives YOU could conceivably have wanted to live inside this system. So this would be the collection of all the incarnations you have ever had – each represented by a cloud of potentiality. When you gather them all together at 6d level then you realise that these lives are not separate things. They are also not sequential. You currently think of your present moment as you sit here typing on your keyboard as being NOW. It is “the present” for you. Everything that you have already experienced is “the past” and everything you have yet to experience is “the future”. Well, for your 6d-self all of your possible incarnations are all equally here and now.

Your 6d self knows that you do not have “past lives” at all. You have alternate lives, each with their own potentialities and probabilities but all together forming one greater whole.

6d-you knows that your choices in your current lifetime are being made at the same time as other choices in other lifetimes. All lifetimes directly affect each other and none can be isolated from each other. It is only your illusion that they occur in a linear row and that they are separate incarnations. It is a useful illusion as it helps you to gain a sense of your progression but it is, none the less, a figment of your imagination.

As you engage actively and consciously with your own spiritual growth you might begin to get a glimmering of this. For example: when you were younger you knew nothing at all of your past lives and you were also full of all kinds of unresolved anger and fear. As you grew up so you worked very hard to understand where these feelings came from. You went for hypnotic regression and uncovered the root-causes of much of what ailed you psycho-spiritually.

As you did this you engaged in an active and conscious process of loving, healing and integrating the parts of yourself that felt most lost, alone and divorced from the wholeness of your soul. You thought in terms of doing “past life” work. But do you not see that you were working directly in your own consciousness at the “eternal now” level? If that which hurt you was truly in your past then you would be able to go back to observe that but you would not be able to heal it. It would remain as it was fixed in the past. But it is not so. You can heal your past. You can bring love to the part of yourself that is struggling and you can help that version of yourself to find peace.

So clearly you can affect and change your past and work deeply in these alternate lives and you can, and do, do so with the choices you make right here in this lifetime. This is because all these lifetimes are, at some level, one much greater life. Truly, I tell you when you do such spiritual work of inner-healing then you begin to touch your own 6d consciousness. You are at such times gaining the awareness that you are, right now, able to change the course and alter the experience of beings that have lived other lives in other times… even on other planets or in other realities. You can bring compassion, wisdom and love to them and in so doing you not only relieve a pressure in your own psyche and release a blockage in your own energy but you also bring healing and relief to them where they are. You do great work at such times. It is the work of The Oneness. This is the work of the 6d being and it can happen inside your life and inside your consciousness if you have the courage to choose this and if you invite your highest wisdom, love and compassion to act through you.

At 6d your physicality in many ways resembles a crystal lattice. If you imagine every moment of choice in your life to be a node, then your 4d-self is a line drawn from one node to the next, plotting the path of all your choices from birth to death. At 5d we see that the nodes of choices not taken are also valid and also exist. They are available as alternate time-lines. All these nodes together look like a cloud. Well now at 6d we realise that all the many clouds of all the incarnations you have ever had all intersect. They are in fact not separate from each other. They are one single greater entity. Each node is in perfect harmony and alignment with all the other nodes that are symmetrically positioned around it. If you understand the physical structure of a crystal then you will have some insight into this explanation.

So that is you at 6d. A crystalline being.

But you are right… what can one do with that info? For myself I have two different responses. First my heart leaps with joy. I absolutely love this. I can’t get over how things that I have taken to be spiritual truths are coming together in this stuff you are now sharing with me. It is simply astounding and very beautiful. It makes me happy to think that this is true. And that is great.

But then my head chimes in and say “no”. There are people here on earth getting up to some pretty funny stuff. And I don’t mean funny as in humorous! And… well… I’m not sure I want to be them very much. You know?

A: I comprehend perfectly. But my dear friend, isn’t it then perfect? You don’t have to do any of those things or make any of those choices because someone else is already taking care of that for you. You are free to get on with the life you want to live thanks to them.

Q: Yes, that’s true. We already covered that in the previous chapter when we spoke about judgement.

A: That’s right. But here now is an additional level of understanding. Not only are you released from the need to do these other things but, indeed, when you are finally ready, after your long and winding journey all the way up through the dimensions, then you will finally arrive at the remembrance that indeed it was all you. And in that remembrance will also come perfect comprehension. Not only did you do all of these things but you will, in that moment, know exactly how it came to be that you did what you did. Perfect knowledge with perfect compassion will yield perfect bliss.

Q: Yes. I feel what you are saying in my heart. Thank you for that So then… what does an 8d being DO. I mean what is it like to be a whole universe?

A: Everything. Nothing. It depends on your perspective. There is no real way to answer that question. An 8d being does “the universe”, in so much as the universe needs any doing. Maybe a better answer is to say that It dreams. And you are Its dreams, all of you.

Q: And you?

A: Why, yes! I am a part of this 8d being’s dream and I am also dreaming this dream. But I am also aware of myself elsewhere, outside of this particular dream, playing parts in utterly different dreams. In due course you will awaken to the complexity of that awareness of yourself too. But that is very much an entirely different conversation.

Q: Okay but then what dimension do you perceive yourself as residing at? Are YOU an 8th dimensional being?

A: You know… we are all actually the 8th dimensional being. There where this whole universe and everyone and everything is One – THERE we are the 8th dimensional being. But you see, implicit in that fact is the understanding that there is only one 8th dimensional being experiencing itself as being many, many beings who are experiencing themselves as existing in many different states of consciousness in these dimensions within the mind of The One great being. So tell me, do YOU think I am an 8th dimensional being?

Q: I think I get what you are saying. We are all the 8th dimensional being and we are all part of it but obviously you could not be all of it. No more than I could be.

A: You know the funny thing is that we ARE actually, each of us, all of it. We are each the 8th dimensional being. But we are very hard at work creating a very powerful illusion that we are not. The illusion is called “separateness”. It is the ego. It is the idea that we are not one being. It is the identification with our creations rather than our truest being. Which is oneness. If we were to change our identification and let go of all of these illusions then we would each see that we are one, that we are in fact THE One. That we are the 8th dimensional being. That there is nothing but Self everywhere you look. Is that hard to comprehend?

Q: It’s a paradox. I like it and it seems true but I also don’t understand it.

A: You are right, it is a paradox. Many of the greatest truths will be paradoxical to you. This is because of the Veil and the nature of your reality. But let me complete the answer to your question. We are The One playing a game of hide-and-seek with Ourself. You are a part of The One that has chosen a corner of the third dimension to hide yourself in. I stand at the cusp, on the very lintel, between 7th and 8th. I am at a place where I am suddenly becoming aware of myself as being… everywhere and in everything. I am therefore right there with you in 3d too. This dawns upon me as the new truth that I am busy awakening to.

Seeing such paradoxes are a sign that you are travelling quite fast on the ascension path. Your whole life you have only seen one side of a coin. You thought that was all there was to the coin. Now you see the other side and your mind is confused but your heart says both views are true. The only way to resolve this paradox is for you to come to full realisation of the coin. You will come to see that it is not a thing with two different sides but indeed an object with depth, weight and texture that you can experience in many more ways than just the two sides you have now discovered.

My best advice is to enjoy these paradoxes as they come up. It is a good sign that you encounter them. It means new insight is on its way.

And this brings me right back to the dimensions. You will notice I have chosen to describe them to you in quite a personal way. I spoke to the way you might experience them directly. I did not try to tell you conclusively what each dimension really IS, rather I told you a little of how you might experience yourself if you resided at that dimensional level.

To try to describe the dimensions themselves is not actually possible. Each being will experience them slightly differently and some will experience them radically differently. And it is only when you are ready to know that all experiences are equally true, equally valid and that all experiences ARE your experiences that you will have the full, final comprehension of what each of the dimensions are. But then, of course, you will be the 8th dimensional being.

You that inhabit lives on planet earth are ones that have chosen to experience Life as collapsing possibilities into actually. You take infinity and define it into a single perspective. That is the path you have chosen. As a result you think in terms of the individual, the personal, the personality, the identity. You would struggle to think in any other terms. But there are other very different perspectives. Let us look at just one example: In Chapter 3 of Book 1, while discussing the nature of Oneness from a scientific perspective, Joy-Divine told you about Pattern Holders. These are beings that each hold a pattern in your reality.

As the energy of this reality flows through one of these beings’ particular pattern it forms into one particular type of sub-atomic particle. But you see there is no actual particle there, it is merely a perturbation in the flow of the energy field. Other beings hold different patterns which likewise distort the energy but in slightly different ways and this results in other different sub-atomic particles. You only need a handful of such patterns and you have all the types of sub-atomic particles that exist. And then other beings can come and hold larger patterns with these sub-atomic patters within them. This next-generation of pattern creates atomic particles: electrons, protons, neutrons and the like. And then other beings can come and hold the third generation of pattern which results in atoms of different sizes. This gives you every one of the chemical elements with which your universe is created.

You need just less than 120 of these to make up the periodic table which is all the atomic elements in your reality. And from these atomic elements all the molecules are made. And there is an astounding number of patterns needed for all the many, many molecules. And then a mind-numbing number of patterns of things can be made with molecules. And these latter patterns, finally, are the objects of your world: large-scale things made from many molecules locked together into forms such as the complex proteins of your body that make up your hand or the plastics that have been moulded into the keyboard upon which you type.

The patterns for all these things, from the sub-atomic particles right up to your body, are all being held by Pattern Holders. And it doesn’t end there! Indeed the Pattern Holders hold all the patterns for all things right the way up to the light-bodies that exist at 7d. So it all gets very complex indeed. But these beings, these Pattern Holders, are one of the many classes of being that share this reality with you but that experience it quite differently from the way you experience it. If they were not there you could not experience this reality at all! There would be not matter for you to play with. You would not have a body to inhabit. There would be no planet to walk upon. There would in fact be nothing that you currently call “real”.

These beings dwell at dimensional levels other than your own. At the third dimensional level you interact with their 3d creations. You collapse the potentialities they create into the one actuality that you choose to perceive as being “the one true reality”. But that is just YOUR temporary illusion. It is just the way things look from your perspective. Do not confuse yourself and think that it is the only way things can or should be perceived!

Source: @Karina89350882

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